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#1 ILoveFishing

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 12:15 PM

Heading to brunners for my first time over christmas break.  any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Posted 12 December 2010 - 01:01 PM

3" white mr twisters with 1/8 to 1/4 jig heads. You will pretty much catch everything there. You can throw jerkbaits and spinnerbaits too. Topwater works in the morning. I'll be heading up that way soon myself. Probably next weekend.
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Posted 12 December 2010 - 03:19 PM

3" white mr twisters with 1/8 to 1/4 jig heads. You will pretty much catch everything there. You can throw jerkbaits and spinnerbaits too. Topwater works in the morning. I'll be heading up that way soon myself. Probably next weekend.


Throw whatever u want, but make sure its for coldwater fish. Made a visit there about a week ago to find water temps in the mid 40's right in the mouth of the discharge. Cooling towers are now in service, and the water temps are coming out very cool. Wasn't suprised to only see 1 other person fishing there, and not catch shit. I was told by a ppl worker the cooling towers will be shut down half way through months of dec. jan, feb, but the water will never be as warm as it was in the past. 4 hours of casting, and not even a sniff. If the water is not as warm or continusely warm, then fish ain't going to stack in there. What a dissapointment.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 10:56 PM

yeah i heard about that, thats not right it wasnt even doing anything to the enviorment
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Posted 12 December 2010 - 11:01 PM


3" white mr twisters with 1/8 to 1/4 jig heads. You will pretty much catch everything there. You can throw jerkbaits and spinnerbaits too. Topwater works in the morning. I'll be heading up that way soon myself. Probably next weekend.


Throw whatever u want, but make sure its for coldwater fish. Made a visit there about a week ago to find water temps in the mid 40's right in the mouth of the discharge. Cooling towers are now in service, and the water temps are coming out very cool. Wasn't suprised to only see 1 other person fishing there, and not catch shit. I was told by a ppl worker the cooling towers will be shut down half way through months of dec. jan, feb, but the water will never be as warm as it was in the past. 4 hours of casting, and not even a sniff. If the water is not as warm or continusely warm, then fish ain't going to stack in there. What a dissapointment.




Update! yes they are gonna shut them down very soon because the hot water has no impact on aquatic life.  but when is the question
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 09:25 PM

still needing an update on brunners!
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 10:21 PM

any other year I would have been out there by now.. havent hit it yet, dont know if I will at all, if what mrfish says is true it sounds like a long car ride and an early morning for only a decent breakfast sandwich. Did hear the the D$ himself was there and had more than a few fish one day last week.. for me, its time to start swiss cheesing some lakes.

the good ole days of brunners sound like a thing of the past, last winter blew even with the consistent warm water. 20+ eyes and a dozen big smallies, musky encounters, hyrbids, carp quillbacks catfish and suckers hitting jigs... aahh those were the days
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 08:41 AM

I was out there one afternoon last week.  fished for a few hours from about 1 until dusk and had a couple walleyes and a few nice smallmouths. Not typical burnners action, but not bad for a random afternoon.  I'll take it.  I was quite a ways d/s of the discharge and had good water temps.  there was alot of steam coming out of the new stack so I figured that the water wouldnt be as warm as i am used to, but it was fine.  I wished I was there for the morning, thats usually when the bite is best.

The biggest factor at brunners in my experience is water level.  You want to catch it when it is moderately above average flow and falling.  Obviously, the WWD needs to be running, but I havent been there yet when it wasnt.  ???
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 08:45 AM

yeah i heard about that, thats not right it wasnt even doing anything to the enviorment


It actually does a ton of bad for the environment, especially during the summer when water temps are high to begin with.  Aquatic life cannot survive there during the summer months, so the cooling towers are a good move.  The coal ash polution on the other hand, is bad no matter what time of year. 

I agree that they can afford to shut down the cooling towers in the winter, because it obvious attracts aquatic life.  Not to mention, it attracts a little bit of  business to an otherwise lifeless town.
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 09:03 AM

Thanks a lot guys, i think im gona give it a shot, if theres steam its obv then better than the rest of the susky, even if its a fail marsh creek isnt too far, im just gona bring some minnows along an see if i can hook into anything :D
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 10:58 AM

It actually does a ton of bad for the environment, especially during the summer when water temps are high to begin with.  Aquatic life cannot survive there during the summer months, so the cooling towers are a good move.  The coal ash polution on the other hand, is bad no matter what time of year. 


I can't see how pumping 90+ degree water into the 35 degree temps of the river could have a negative effect  =) =)  Yes, to fishermen it was a great thing but overall for the river I couldn't see how it wouldn't do more harm than good (hence why laws exist so water with that much of a temp difference isn't pumped into rivers after its used to cool reactors). If they had to turn off the WWD and those temps basically went from almost 90 to 30-40 in a matter of almost no time I'd hafta say a lot of those fish wouldn't adjust and would end up dying. Atleast with the coolers in place it'd be a 10-15 degree difference vs a 40 degree or more and would give the fish a better chance.

Over the summer those temps were probably both higher (the river and the WWD) and adds more stress to fish that would already be stressed due to high water temps.
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 01:39 PM


It actually does a ton of bad for the environment, especially during the summer when water temps are high to begin with.  Aquatic life cannot survive there during the summer months, so the cooling towers are a good move.  The coal ash polution on the other hand, is bad no matter what time of year.  


I can't see how pumping 90+ degree water into the 35 degree temps of the river could have a negative effect  =) =)  Yes, to fishermen it was a great thing but overall for the river I couldn't see how it wouldn't do more harm than good (hence why laws exist so water with that much of a temp difference isn't pumped into rivers after its used to cool reactors). If they had to turn off the WWD and those temps basically went from almost 90 to 30-40 in a matter of almost no time I'd hafta say a lot of those fish wouldn't adjust and would end up dying. Atleast with the coolers in place it'd be a 10-15 degree difference vs a 40 degree or more and would give the fish a better chance.

Over the summer those temps were probably both higher (the river and the WWD) and adds more stress to fish that would already be stressed due to high water temps.


Did ya read my entire post, becasue you didnt quote the whole thing?  popcorn

My point was that during the summer, the WWD is a bad thing.  The water is warm enough to begin with, and the fish are stressed enough as it is.   It could contribute to disease which could spread.

I mentioned that its not a big deal in the winter time.  
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 01:53 PM

I've suspected that the warmer water in the wintertime there has been a factor in the bigger than usual smallies. Could be the fact that they feed more in the winter because of the warm water or just coincidence as I know the bigger ones are caught in the colder months.

What I HAVE wondered though was the impact on other life forms, like turtles, for example. It is pretty cool being there in the dead of winter on a cold as balls day and seeing turtles swimming around but I wonder if this has any effect on their cycle.

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 02:41 PM

I've suspected that the warmer water in the wintertime there has been a factor in the bigger than usual smallies. Could be the fact that they feed more in the winter because of the warm water or just coincidence as I know the bigger ones are caught in the colder months.

What I HAVE wondered though was the impact on other life forms, like turtles, for example. It is pretty cool being there in the dead of winter on a cold as balls day and seeing turtles swimming around but I wonder if this has any effect on their cycle.


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I have never noticed any variation is size of the smallmouths at Brunners compared to anywhere else on the Susquehanna.  I have noticed a drop in quantity, but that is everywhere on the river as well.

It is wild sometimes to see life forms that you afiliate with warmer weather/water, such as turtles.  Sometime you notice insects/gnats buzzing around, that should not have any business being around in the dead of winter. 
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 03:30 PM


I've suspected that the warmer water in the wintertime there has been a factor in the bigger than usual smallies. Could be the fact that they feed more in the winter because of the warm water or just coincidence as I know the bigger ones are caught in the colder months.

What I HAVE wondered though was the impact on other life forms, like turtles, for example. It is pretty cool being there in the dead of winter on a cold as balls day and seeing turtles swimming around but I wonder if this has any effect on their cycle.


Tom,

I have never noticed any variation is size of the smallmouths at Brunners compared to anywhere else on the Susquehanna.  I have noticed a drop in quantity, but that is everywhere on the river as well.

It is wild sometimes to see life forms that you afiliate with warmer weather/water, such as turtles.  Sometime you notice insects/gnats buzzing around, that should not have any business being around in the dead of winter.  

I should clarify. Not saying they are all pigs by any means and it probably is just a result of the time of year. Now that I think about I seem to have gotten big ones more consistently a bit further downstream...which is where I fish the river the most, so it is certanly just law of averages.

I really want to get a picture of a turtle basking on a rock with ice around it while the water is steaming in the background. Would be cool as hell.

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 03:32 PM

Did ya read my entire post, becasue you didnt quote the whole thing?  popcorn


I did...and intentionally didn't quote the last line since I didn't feel like going there, but since you asked. From a fishermans point of view, the WWD in the winter is a great thing. To those who study their effects on river ecosystems, it isn't, which is why its illegal to pump water into the river more than 10-15 degrees warmer than the river temp which is why the cooling towers were installed, years behind just about every other nuke station on the east coast (and that is coming from a friend who has worked ON EVERY ONE OF THEM OVER THE PAST 25 YEARS including spending 6 months working on the new systems installed at the Berwick, PA plant last winter ;)


I agree that they can afford to shut down the cooling towers in the winter


My guess is, from a business perspective, its not worth the huge fines to shut them down. I'd have to guess its much cheaper to have to cool water a bit longer before returning it to the river than it is to not do it and face the fines  popcorn popcorn
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 03:33 PM

Soooo....does anyone want to head west this weekend?
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 05:05 PM

right haha, someone go to brunners this weekend and get pictures!
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 02:34 PM

Just got back from brunners, it was a complete fail.  water was steaming and a few people were catching little smallmouth. waste of a 2 hour trip
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 02:47 PM

How was the water level? High or Low, clear or stained?




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